1 00:00:06,619 --> 00:00:04,160 well hi Ryan and all the kids at camp 2 00:00:09,140 --> 00:00:06,629 KSC good morning welcome to Mission 3 00:00:11,629 --> 00:00:09,150 Control in Houston my name is Pat Ryan 4 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:11,639 I'm the public affairs commentator on 5 00:00:15,620 --> 00:00:14,490 the orbit to shift today here in the 6 00:00:18,189 --> 00:00:15,630 International Space Station flight 7 00:00:20,599 --> 00:00:18,199 control room we just finished up our 8 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:20,609 daily International Space Station update 9 00:00:26,359 --> 00:00:23,970 on NASA television and eager to hear 10 00:00:28,609 --> 00:00:26,369 your questions and talk about space and 11 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:28,619 space exploration with me this morning 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:30,840 is advanced ice is one of the 13 00:00:34,970 --> 00:00:32,250 International Space Station flight 14 00:00:36,889 --> 00:00:34,980 directors and he's they're the people 15 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:36,899 that run everything that goes on in this 16 00:00:41,690 --> 00:00:40,079 room ed tell us a little bit about 17 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:41,700 yourself your own educational and 18 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:43,320 professional background how you ended up 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:45,450 here sure well it's great to be with all 20 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:47,610 you guys out there Camp KSC and 21 00:00:52,010 --> 00:00:49,860 certainly a pleasure to get the chance 22 00:00:53,900 --> 00:00:52,020 to talk to you my background you know 23 00:00:56,119 --> 00:00:53,910 honestly most of my life has been 24 00:00:57,410 --> 00:00:56,129 involved or interested in space to some 25 00:00:59,779 --> 00:00:57,420 degree it started off with us really 26 00:01:02,750 --> 00:00:59,789 young and so a lot of my growing up 27 00:01:04,729 --> 00:01:02,760 really kind of focused on that i am from 28 00:01:07,399 --> 00:01:04,739 Michigan originally basically Michigan 29 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:07,409 out you're the Saginaw Bay if anybody's 30 00:01:11,179 --> 00:01:09,810 familiar with that area but went to 31 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:11,189 grade school high school there went to 32 00:01:15,170 --> 00:01:12,450 University of Michigan for college 33 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:15,180 aerospace engineering was my degree and 34 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:17,810 when I was at Michigan I was a 35 00:01:21,590 --> 00:01:19,890 cooperative education student a co-op 36 00:01:24,950 --> 00:01:21,600 student here at the Johnson Space Center 37 00:01:27,590 --> 00:01:24,960 I've spent most of my career here in 38 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:27,600 Mission Operations for the International 39 00:01:30,020 --> 00:01:28,710 Space Station I've actually been 40 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:30,030 certified in a few the different 41 00:01:34,190 --> 00:01:32,250 consoles that are behind me here in the 42 00:01:37,399 --> 00:01:34,200 flight control room worked my way 43 00:01:38,870 --> 00:01:37,409 through the various certifications I've 44 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:38,880 done a few other things here at Johnson 45 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:41,490 and eventually of course applied to 46 00:01:45,289 --> 00:01:42,930 become a flight director was selected in 47 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:45,299 2009 and I've been doing it ever since 48 00:01:50,990 --> 00:01:47,850 now you also when your background has 49 00:01:52,730 --> 00:01:51,000 something in common with the kids at 50 00:01:54,319 --> 00:01:52,740 camp KSA you were a space camp or 51 00:01:55,789 --> 00:01:54,329 yourself pressure was yeah I went to 52 00:01:59,810 --> 00:01:55,799 Space Camp at Huntsville Alabama I went 53 00:02:01,910 --> 00:01:59,820 there twice and it was certainly one of 54 00:02:04,969 --> 00:02:01,920 those experiences both times really that 55 00:02:06,590 --> 00:02:04,979 really helped me focus and and realize 56 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:06,600 that I really wanted to be involved in 57 00:02:10,490 --> 00:02:09,030 space and the second time I went really 58 00:02:12,730 --> 00:02:10,500 helped me realize that mission 59 00:02:15,010 --> 00:02:12,740 operations might be the place for me but 60 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:15,020 even more important it exposed me to a 61 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:16,730 lot of the things that I don't don't 62 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:18,650 normally get exposed to back home or 63 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:20,150 back in the school setting just all the 64 00:02:25,780 --> 00:02:23,330 opportunities the the the g-wiz things 65 00:02:28,030 --> 00:02:25,790 not only just that has to do with space 66 00:02:30,450 --> 00:02:28,040 but just all the the opportunities that 67 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:30,460 might be out there and gave me a 68 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:32,570 springboard if you will to go 69 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:35,090 investigate all that different potential 70 00:02:39,850 --> 00:02:37,250 opportunities that are out there and it 71 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:39,860 ends up as a flight director so I think 72 00:02:46,030 --> 00:02:41,570 we're ready Ryan let's see what the kids 73 00:02:48,310 --> 00:02:46,040 want to know about all right cam can you 74 00:02:51,780 --> 00:02:48,320 see this is your moment to shine you can 75 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:51,790 go ahead and ask your questions now 76 00:02:56,350 --> 00:02:54,140 hello my name is Michael I'm from 77 00:03:00,040 --> 00:02:56,360 Melbourne Florida and my question is all 78 00:03:02,620 --> 00:03:00,050 you worry about asteroids oh and pore 79 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:02,630 space debris hitting the ISS and what is 80 00:03:07,180 --> 00:03:04,970 your procedure something would happen 81 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:07,190 like that Michael that's a great 82 00:03:12,850 --> 00:03:09,760 question and we actually do have a 83 00:03:14,170 --> 00:03:12,860 fairly good concern about the space 84 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:14,180 debris environment that we're orbiting 85 00:03:18,610 --> 00:03:16,580 in obviously you're aware of the fact 86 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:18,620 that there is a lot of debris up there 87 00:03:21,370 --> 00:03:19,910 and low Earth orbit and that's just 88 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:21,380 because we've launched not only the 89 00:03:25,270 --> 00:03:23,090 United States but we launched a lot of 90 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:25,280 as a planet launched a lot of things up 91 00:03:29,650 --> 00:03:27,110 into space and left a lot of those 92 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:29,660 pieces behind so we fly in that 93 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:31,250 environment we're not really so much 94 00:03:35,470 --> 00:03:33,440 worried about asteroids because they're 95 00:03:36,790 --> 00:03:35,480 so large they're pretty easy to spot 96 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:36,800 once they get close enough to earth 97 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:38,750 obviously as a planet we want to know 98 00:03:42,940 --> 00:03:40,730 further in advance that they're coming 99 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:42,950 but for the space station anything 100 00:03:47,890 --> 00:03:45,530 that's about the size of a softball or 101 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:47,900 larger we're able to track and get out 102 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:49,850 of the way if we have to the space 103 00:03:54,460 --> 00:03:51,290 station has shielding on it that 104 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:54,470 protects it from getting hit by anything 105 00:03:58,930 --> 00:03:56,450 that's smaller than about the size of a 106 00:04:00,340 --> 00:03:58,940 BB so anything that's pebble sized are 107 00:04:02,770 --> 00:04:00,350 smaller we really don't have too much 108 00:04:04,540 --> 00:04:02,780 concern with that either but it's the 109 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:04,550 things that are between BB size and 110 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:06,290 softball sized that's the the area of 111 00:04:08,980 --> 00:04:07,610 concern that we have that we're just not 112 00:04:10,270 --> 00:04:08,990 really well protected against but we 113 00:04:12,910 --> 00:04:10,280 can't really track it from the ground 114 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:12,920 either so for that we do have procedures 115 00:04:17,349 --> 00:04:15,410 in place that the crew can respond to if 116 00:04:18,970 --> 00:04:17,359 we call it a rapid depress but that just 117 00:04:21,940 --> 00:04:18,980 means that there's a hole in the cabin 118 00:04:23,090 --> 00:04:21,950 and there's air is going out so in that 119 00:04:25,610 --> 00:04:23,100 event the crew knows how 120 00:04:26,630 --> 00:04:25,620 take action we close hatches we could if 121 00:04:28,220 --> 00:04:26,640 it comes out to it we can get their 122 00:04:31,190 --> 00:04:28,230 Soyuz lifeboats and they can come home 123 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:31,200 but haven't had to do that yet and hope 124 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:32,610 we never have to but we're prepared if 125 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:34,260 it comes to them there are a lot of 126 00:04:38,840 --> 00:04:36,090 different kinds of debris out there to 127 00:04:41,870 --> 00:04:38,850 some natural some not absolutely there's 128 00:04:44,030 --> 00:04:41,880 you mentioned asteroids and we think of 129 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:44,040 the big gigantic asteroids that are out 130 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:46,170 in the asteroid belt and that maybe I 131 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:48,450 concerned with them but they interact 132 00:04:52,370 --> 00:04:50,010 with each other and they create their 133 00:04:54,020 --> 00:04:52,380 own smaller pieces of debris so there's 134 00:04:55,190 --> 00:04:54,030 the natural debris if you will and then 135 00:04:58,100 --> 00:04:55,200 of course there's a lot of the space 136 00:05:10,590 --> 00:04:58,110 junk that gets lost or comes apart in 137 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:13,320 um fine in Shannon and I'm from Port 138 00:05:17,220 --> 00:05:15,460 Orange Florida my question is what I've 139 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:17,230 been your most exciting day as a flight 140 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:21,490 director wow that's a that's a great 141 00:05:25,650 --> 00:05:24,310 question you know it I thought the 142 00:05:27,180 --> 00:05:25,660 easiest way to answer it is to say every 143 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:27,190 day is a great day just because I enjoy 144 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:29,800 so much what I get to do working with 145 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:31,780 the people in this room the the 146 00:05:34,830 --> 00:05:33,310 international partners the engineers 147 00:05:37,050 --> 00:05:34,840 there are so many people that support 148 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:37,060 this program all around the world and 149 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:38,440 it's just such a joy to get to work with 150 00:05:43,770 --> 00:05:41,890 them but to be honest there are a couple 151 00:05:45,930 --> 00:05:43,780 that really stand out of course my first 152 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:45,940 day as a flight director I might say it 153 00:05:49,890 --> 00:05:48,490 was most nerve-racking there was a bit 154 00:05:51,540 --> 00:05:49,900 of a ceremony in the beginning I 155 00:05:54,870 --> 00:05:51,550 announced my call sign so I'm known as 156 00:05:57,330 --> 00:05:54,880 carbon flight there was a lot to do with 157 00:05:59,220 --> 00:05:57,340 that but then for the first time as in 158 00:06:01,290 --> 00:05:59,230 my flight director training they're all 159 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:01,300 the management and all the teachers that 160 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:02,890 I had they all left I was on my own to 161 00:06:07,590 --> 00:06:04,450 run this amazing spacecraft so that was 162 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:07,600 certainly a memorable event only a week 163 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:09,970 and a half later I had my first the 164 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:12,310 vehicle the space station welcome to me 165 00:06:16,740 --> 00:06:14,170 by having and one of its big power 166 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:16,750 supply boxes do a power on reset we call 167 00:06:20,130 --> 00:06:17,890 it but it turned itself off and then 168 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:20,140 turned back on and that caused some 169 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:21,730 cautions and warnings we woke up the 170 00:06:26,490 --> 00:06:23,890 cruise that was my first big as flight 171 00:06:28,050 --> 00:06:26,500 director experience with responding to 172 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:28,060 something on the spacecraft on the space 173 00:06:35,460 --> 00:06:31,810 station just last week I helped install 174 00:06:37,140 --> 00:06:35,470 the Japanese h2 Transfer Vehicle on the 175 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:37,150 space station that was that was a really 176 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:38,890 neat experience I was a flight director 177 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:41,650 for sts-131 so that was fun and a 178 00:06:45,810 --> 00:06:44,290 keystone so far for me was last summer I 179 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:45,820 was the lead flight director for the 180 00:06:50,330 --> 00:06:47,710 increment 28 mission that was a four 181 00:06:52,350 --> 00:06:50,340 month span of time last summer and 182 00:06:53,250 --> 00:06:52,360 increment lead flight director means 183 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:53,260 that I was the flight director 184 00:06:57,540 --> 00:06:55,120 completely in charge of the space 185 00:06:59,520 --> 00:06:57,550 station mission so not just the current 186 00:07:02,400 --> 00:06:59,530 shift like Pat mentioned we were on the 187 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:02,410 orbit to shift right now but it's for 188 00:07:06,180 --> 00:07:03,970 the entire mission during that span of 189 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:06,190 time and a lot around the clock yeah 190 00:07:09,450 --> 00:07:07,960 always getting not all the time but 191 00:07:11,310 --> 00:07:09,460 getting phone calls and not only getting 192 00:07:13,110 --> 00:07:11,320 calls from this room but you know my 193 00:07:14,910 --> 00:07:13,120 phone rings when the space station has a 194 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:14,920 telephone so they've called me too but 195 00:07:24,100 --> 00:07:17,050 that was certainly a very unique 196 00:07:29,659 --> 00:07:27,020 my name is Evan Evan Mackenzie from 197 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:29,669 Yongsan Korea I was always wondering 198 00:07:35,209 --> 00:07:32,300 what kind of experiments are currently 199 00:07:37,969 --> 00:07:35,219 being ran on on the International Space 200 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:37,979 Station that's a great question to 201 00:07:41,959 --> 00:07:40,289 heaven you know the primary purpose of 202 00:07:43,909 --> 00:07:41,969 the space station is to be an orbiting 203 00:07:45,350 --> 00:07:43,919 laboratory not only for the United 204 00:07:47,330 --> 00:07:45,360 States but for all the partners that are 205 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:47,340 involved in it you know Russia and Japan 206 00:07:52,610 --> 00:07:49,740 and Canada and the United European Space 207 00:07:54,649 --> 00:07:52,620 Agency they all have laboratory and 208 00:07:57,499 --> 00:07:54,659 research facilities and experiments and 209 00:08:00,529 --> 00:07:57,509 we're doing also all sorts of work so 210 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:00,539 that's a fantastic question the major 211 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:03,330 areas that we try to study are as you 212 00:08:07,339 --> 00:08:04,770 would guess we try to study everything 213 00:08:10,010 --> 00:08:07,349 that would benefit from not having 214 00:08:12,679 --> 00:08:10,020 gravity involved in the research so a 215 00:08:14,209 --> 00:08:12,689 lot of the research has to do with the 216 00:08:16,459 --> 00:08:14,219 human body because the human body 217 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:16,469 actually operates very differently when 218 00:08:22,279 --> 00:08:18,810 you take gravity away we do research 219 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:22,289 with materials most of that has to do 220 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:26,370 with liquids and flames because they 221 00:08:31,309 --> 00:08:29,490 interact very differently on orbit than 222 00:08:33,860 --> 00:08:31,319 they do here on the ground and what's 223 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:33,870 really unique about those those types of 224 00:08:37,009 --> 00:08:35,370 research is when you take gravity away 225 00:08:39,589 --> 00:08:37,019 you can learn a whole lot more about how 226 00:08:42,409 --> 00:08:39,599 the fundamental science works which 227 00:08:44,209 --> 00:08:42,419 maybe doesn't sound like it's all that 228 00:08:45,590 --> 00:08:44,219 exciting and and to watch some of the 229 00:08:46,939 --> 00:08:45,600 science it doesn't sound like it's all 230 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:46,949 that exciting until you realize what the 231 00:08:50,689 --> 00:08:49,140 applications of that are and all the 232 00:08:52,220 --> 00:08:50,699 applications of the science that we're 233 00:08:54,620 --> 00:08:52,230 doing on the space station really apply 234 00:08:56,930 --> 00:08:54,630 to how we live and what we do here on 235 00:08:59,900 --> 00:08:56,940 earth for example some of the liquid 236 00:09:05,210 --> 00:08:59,910 science that they're looking at if you 237 00:09:07,850 --> 00:09:05,220 understand how how how fuel droplets are 238 00:09:09,319 --> 00:09:07,860 formed and it doesn't sound like it's 239 00:09:12,530 --> 00:09:09,329 all that useful until you realize that 240 00:09:14,210 --> 00:09:12,540 engines work that way and if you want to 241 00:09:16,550 --> 00:09:14,220 understand how a spark plug makes your 242 00:09:18,740 --> 00:09:16,560 engine fire and you want to make it more 243 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:18,750 fuel efficient so you can help with our 244 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:20,970 global warming and carbon footprints and 245 00:09:24,170 --> 00:09:22,470 things like that then you start to 246 00:09:25,970 --> 00:09:24,180 realize that this unique science that 247 00:09:28,430 --> 00:09:25,980 we're doing actually has applicability 248 00:09:29,990 --> 00:09:28,440 on earth of course all the medical 249 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:30,000 research that we're doing part of that 250 00:09:34,309 --> 00:09:32,970 is to try to help offset the symptoms 251 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:34,319 that the crew feels like their heart 252 00:09:35,889 --> 00:09:34,610 gets 253 00:09:37,710 --> 00:09:35,899 weaker when they're on orbit if they 254 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:37,720 don't exercise their bones get weaker 255 00:09:42,819 --> 00:09:40,730 they're exposed to radiation if we want 256 00:09:44,860 --> 00:09:42,829 to send them to to Mars we have to be 257 00:09:46,269 --> 00:09:44,870 able to figure out how to make it so 258 00:09:47,650 --> 00:09:46,279 that they're not so brittle and frail 259 00:09:50,079 --> 00:09:47,660 that they can actually go walk around on 260 00:09:52,210 --> 00:09:50,089 Mars all that applies to things here on 261 00:09:54,759 --> 00:09:52,220 earth so we're learning how to maybe 262 00:09:56,170 --> 00:09:54,769 combat osteoporosis or some of those 263 00:09:57,610 --> 00:09:56,180 other ailments that are out there so 264 00:09:59,920 --> 00:09:57,620 we're doing a lot of research on the 265 00:10:10,449 --> 00:09:59,930 space station that directly applies to 266 00:10:13,329 --> 00:10:10,459 improving life here on earth what is the 267 00:10:17,019 --> 00:10:13,339 perfect what is the purpose of building 268 00:10:18,699 --> 00:10:17,029 the International Space Station there 269 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:18,709 there are so many answers to that 270 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:22,610 question um the primary answer is to do 271 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:24,350 that research that we were just talking 272 00:10:27,100 --> 00:10:25,970 about that that's the really the 273 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:27,110 fundamental reason that we have the 274 00:10:31,690 --> 00:10:29,540 space station is to do that in-depth 275 00:10:34,269 --> 00:10:31,700 research and investigations and it 276 00:10:36,220 --> 00:10:34,279 sounds you know the investigations that 277 00:10:38,319 --> 00:10:36,230 we have up there are big range from very 278 00:10:41,050 --> 00:10:38,329 expensive very high-end like the Alpha 279 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:41,060 Magnetic Spectrometer was you know it's 280 00:10:47,019 --> 00:10:44,390 a multi nation multi-million dollar if 281 00:10:49,870 --> 00:10:47,029 not billion dollar investment to go 282 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:49,880 explore the cosmos from our orbiting 283 00:10:55,329 --> 00:10:52,130 platform from the other end of the 284 00:10:57,730 --> 00:10:55,339 spectrum we have just taken delivery of 285 00:10:59,410 --> 00:10:57,740 two spiders on the spit on the on the 286 00:11:01,800 --> 00:10:59,420 space station from the h2 Transfer 287 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:01,810 Vehicle that just arrived and those are 288 00:11:08,019 --> 00:11:06,290 part of a YouTube science lab that the 289 00:11:09,430 --> 00:11:08,029 whole focus of that is to go learn a 290 00:11:11,530 --> 00:11:09,440 little bit about how these spiders 291 00:11:14,199 --> 00:11:11,540 interact with micro gravity and and and 292 00:11:15,850 --> 00:11:14,209 how they adapt living up there but it 293 00:11:19,210 --> 00:11:15,860 was an experiment that was proposed 294 00:11:21,550 --> 00:11:19,220 through YouTube by students and so we're 295 00:11:23,259 --> 00:11:21,560 another focus is to get the people here 296 00:11:25,090 --> 00:11:23,269 on earth engaged in learning new things 297 00:11:27,490 --> 00:11:25,100 about the environment that's up there 298 00:11:28,980 --> 00:11:27,500 and then like I said before how that can 299 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:28,990 apply the people here on earth so 300 00:11:33,759 --> 00:11:31,310 there's obviously a piece of trying to 301 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:33,769 do more than just having the six people 302 00:11:39,550 --> 00:11:36,100 on the space station doing research 303 00:11:41,380 --> 00:11:39,560 obviously we want to go and send people 304 00:11:42,910 --> 00:11:41,390 beyond low-earth orbit we want to go to 305 00:11:44,350 --> 00:11:42,920 the moon or go to an asteroid or go to 306 00:11:44,940 --> 00:11:44,360 Mars and we have to learn how to do that 307 00:11:46,680 --> 00:11:44,950 not 308 00:11:48,690 --> 00:11:46,690 with the people themselves but also the 309 00:11:52,110 --> 00:11:48,700 spacecraft and since we do have this 310 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:52,120 very nice large orbiting platform where 311 00:11:56,670 --> 00:11:54,010 people can stay for long durations of 312 00:11:58,620 --> 00:11:56,680 time we can learn a lot about the people 313 00:11:59,970 --> 00:11:58,630 and the systems that are required to do 314 00:12:01,290 --> 00:11:59,980 those even longer missions so if you're 315 00:12:03,420 --> 00:12:01,300 going to send people to Mars for takes 316 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:03,430 two or three years we get a lot of good 317 00:12:08,490 --> 00:12:05,290 practice with that on the space station 318 00:12:12,510 --> 00:12:08,500 and one of the reasons that we built it 319 00:12:14,580 --> 00:12:12,520 was to find out how to build a large 320 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:14,590 thing like that in that environment yeah 321 00:12:17,550 --> 00:12:16,090 you're absolutely right people talk 322 00:12:20,010 --> 00:12:17,560 about doing science on the space station 323 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:20,020 and I come back often with the fact that 324 00:12:24,510 --> 00:12:21,610 just the fact that we have a space 325 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:24,520 station is a lot of science the systems 326 00:12:29,130 --> 00:12:26,170 that are inside keeping those running 327 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:29,140 for 12 plus years now going on for at 328 00:12:33,690 --> 00:12:31,450 least another 10 that's a scientific 329 00:12:36,690 --> 00:12:33,700 endeavor and then putting this this 330 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:36,700 space station is a football field long 331 00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:38,530 and it didn't launch that way we 332 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:40,150 launched individual pieces over the 333 00:12:46,140 --> 00:12:43,290 course of at least 10 years right and 334 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:46,150 you know doing that and doing all the 335 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:47,710 international cooperation I figure out 336 00:12:52,020 --> 00:12:50,380 how to assemble them a space that it may 337 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:52,030 not fall under the label of science but 338 00:12:55,500 --> 00:12:53,890 it certainly is an engineering marvel to 339 00:12:57,930 --> 00:12:55,510 to be able to do that and that was all 340 00:12:59,700 --> 00:12:57,940 through the you know the application of 341 00:13:01,830 --> 00:12:59,710 the math and the science and engineering 342 00:13:07,610 --> 00:13:01,840 that you learn in school and put it up 343 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:11,340 um my name is Alice from Paramount 344 00:13:17,550 --> 00:13:13,870 California my question was what is the 345 00:13:19,140 --> 00:13:17,560 most difficult part of the job the most 346 00:13:20,340 --> 00:13:19,150 difficult part of my job and this 347 00:13:23,100 --> 00:13:20,350 doesn't count as part of your right 348 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:23,110 talking to public affairs and no I found 349 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:24,730 it to be quite obviously I love talking 350 00:13:27,750 --> 00:13:26,530 to people about what we do and being 351 00:13:31,650 --> 00:13:27,760 able to share it so it's certainly not 352 00:13:34,230 --> 00:13:31,660 this part of it there are a lot of 353 00:13:36,570 --> 00:13:34,240 challenges with what we have to do just 354 00:13:37,950 --> 00:13:36,580 putting six people up in space and 355 00:13:42,270 --> 00:13:37,960 keeping them up there and keeping them 356 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:42,280 happy healthy safe and keeping them with 357 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:44,290 work to do and having good work up on 358 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:45,730 the space station obviously that takes a 359 00:13:50,210 --> 00:13:47,910 lot of work and a lot of challenge 360 00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:50,220 there's also a lot of challenge 361 00:13:54,180 --> 00:13:52,510 integrating really when you ask a flight 362 00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:54,190 director what do we do our one of our 363 00:13:58,500 --> 00:13:56,110 principal jobs is integration and what 364 00:14:00,930 --> 00:13:58,510 that means is taking something from the 365 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:00,940 program mr. suffered Dinis our program 366 00:14:05,010 --> 00:14:03,610 manager he'll say I want at this 367 00:14:07,170 --> 00:14:05,020 particular time I want this particular 368 00:14:08,490 --> 00:14:07,180 thing to happen and then the engineering 369 00:14:10,770 --> 00:14:08,500 community will say well you need these 370 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:10,780 boxes and they need to go be able to do 371 00:14:14,850 --> 00:14:12,970 this thing and then you have operations 372 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:14,860 and they say well in order for to 373 00:14:18,780 --> 00:14:16,450 actually function we need to have this 374 00:14:21,150 --> 00:14:18,790 type of software and we need to have 375 00:14:22,830 --> 00:14:21,160 these sort of controls and you have 376 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:22,840 safety playing a role and you have all 377 00:14:26,130 --> 00:14:24,010 the international partners playing a 378 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:26,140 role the flight directors help bring 379 00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:28,320 that all together to make it into a 380 00:14:32,780 --> 00:14:30,430 package that we can actually put on 381 00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:32,790 board and go execute successfully 382 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:36,190 sometimes the difficulty is in lies in 383 00:14:39,930 --> 00:14:37,810 that integration work being able to pull 384 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:39,940 all the pieces together especially when 385 00:14:43,380 --> 00:14:41,710 you talk about my Rosie the increment 386 00:14:45,390 --> 00:14:43,390 flight director Hoover it was a four 387 00:14:47,130 --> 00:14:45,400 month span then you're not only trying 388 00:14:49,020 --> 00:14:47,140 to get today to be successful not only 389 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:49,030 this week to be successful but you want 390 00:14:52,860 --> 00:14:51,010 the entire mission over that four or six 391 00:14:56,220 --> 00:14:52,870 month or however long piece of the 392 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:56,230 puzzle to be successful you know and 393 00:15:00,630 --> 00:14:58,120 i'll be frankly honest with you another 394 00:15:04,860 --> 00:15:00,640 difficult piece is trying to maintain a 395 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:04,870 life balance if I if I could I love what 396 00:15:09,900 --> 00:15:06,850 I do so much I could spend way too many 397 00:15:12,210 --> 00:15:09,910 hours here at NASA then I really ought 398 00:15:14,220 --> 00:15:12,220 to because I do have a wife and two two 399 00:15:16,079 --> 00:15:14,230 great kids at home and I diff it's very 400 00:15:18,900 --> 00:15:16,089 difficult to figure out sometimes how to 401 00:15:21,030 --> 00:15:18,910 manage not being so absorbed and 402 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:21,040 consumed by this job here that I don't 403 00:15:26,190 --> 00:15:22,450 get to spend time with them and with 404 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:26,200 family so it's a part of living here and 405 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:27,850 past nanas heading because everybody 406 00:15:36,829 --> 00:15:29,710 that works here loves it so much that it 407 00:15:43,079 --> 00:15:39,570 hello my name is Brandon um what is the 408 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:43,089 best part of your job besides talking to 409 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:46,930 you good I'll be you know the best part 410 00:15:52,170 --> 00:15:50,410 is the the reward the sense of reward of 411 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:52,180 the feeling of reward that you have to 412 00:15:55,470 --> 00:15:53,530 see something that you've worked on for 413 00:15:58,500 --> 00:15:55,480 a long time really come to fruition and 414 00:16:00,270 --> 00:15:58,510 then be successfully completed an 415 00:16:02,490 --> 00:16:00,280 example might be this h2 Transfer 416 00:16:04,290 --> 00:16:02,500 Vehicle mission we have been working out 417 00:16:05,790 --> 00:16:04,300 in the backup lead for that David Korth 418 00:16:08,579 --> 00:16:05,800 is the lead flight director for that and 419 00:16:11,070 --> 00:16:08,589 I will be the lead for the next one next 420 00:16:12,990 --> 00:16:11,080 summer but that's a project that you 421 00:16:14,190 --> 00:16:13,000 work on for at least for a year and you 422 00:16:15,690 --> 00:16:14,200 do all of this planning and the 423 00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:15,700 integration that I talked about and then 424 00:16:20,820 --> 00:16:18,880 to see it launch and then being able to 425 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:20,830 see it successfully be birth to the 426 00:16:24,750 --> 00:16:22,150 space station last week and next week 427 00:16:27,270 --> 00:16:24,760 we'll be moving some pieces of it around 428 00:16:29,699 --> 00:16:27,280 to outfit the space station to see all 429 00:16:33,660 --> 00:16:29,709 that come together be successful is 430 00:16:35,010 --> 00:16:33,670 really rewarding and that's why we put 431 00:16:37,290 --> 00:16:35,020 in all the long hours just do whatever 432 00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:37,300 test it is that we're doing actually 433 00:16:43,110 --> 00:16:40,720 come to fruition being able to give I 434 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:43,120 call them my guys but the the crew that 435 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:44,680 was on board when I was the increment 436 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:46,450 flight director being able to watch them 437 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:48,190 do their task but then to give him a 438 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:49,450 handshake and a hug when they get back 439 00:16:52,829 --> 00:16:51,250 on the ground that just we could all 440 00:17:01,650 --> 00:16:52,839 celebrate up a job very well done no 441 00:17:05,410 --> 00:17:03,730 one of the education and job 442 00:17:08,590 --> 00:17:05,420 requirements as well as what inspired 443 00:17:09,970 --> 00:17:08,600 you to do this job let me tackle the 444 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:09,980 last question first because it starts 445 00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:12,530 earlier in my life my particular 446 00:17:16,630 --> 00:17:15,439 inspiration it may sound hard to believe 447 00:17:20,579 --> 00:17:16,640 but actually the Challenger accident 448 00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:20,589 when we lost Challenger and its crew 449 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:23,360 turned out to be a major inspiration for 450 00:17:27,850 --> 00:17:26,089 me not so much watching the event on TV 451 00:17:29,530 --> 00:17:27,860 although I was another third grade when 452 00:17:33,070 --> 00:17:29,540 that happens so I did see it in a 453 00:17:35,110 --> 00:17:33,080 regular replace but learning about it 454 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:35,120 afterwards was reading a book about it 455 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:38,450 and it talked about how this engineering 456 00:17:43,390 --> 00:17:41,630 this machine basically was trying to 457 00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:43,400 overcome the forces that were happening 458 00:17:49,390 --> 00:17:46,280 to it and to me it sparked off a I 459 00:17:51,790 --> 00:17:49,400 wonder moment of how could engineers go 460 00:17:54,370 --> 00:17:51,800 and design and build a spacecraft or a 461 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:54,380 machine that recognizes what's happening 462 00:17:57,070 --> 00:17:55,730 is trying to pull it apart and yet and 463 00:18:00,040 --> 00:17:57,080 still try and get those people safely 464 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:00,050 there's that to orbit and that that 465 00:18:04,750 --> 00:18:02,570 sparked it for me after that I just 466 00:18:06,669 --> 00:18:04,760 wanted to go learn more about what what 467 00:18:09,460 --> 00:18:06,679 this all meant what the space space 468 00:18:10,930 --> 00:18:09,470 travel thing was and it just kept going 469 00:18:14,230 --> 00:18:10,940 I kept looking for different 470 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:14,240 opportunities to learn more and that's 471 00:18:17,950 --> 00:18:15,890 how I ended up going to space camp but I 472 00:18:20,020 --> 00:18:17,960 could learn a whole lot there had a lot 473 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:20,030 of great inspiration there that really 474 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:22,910 set me on my course as far as working 475 00:18:29,409 --> 00:18:26,410 here at NASA you really need to have a 476 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:29,419 bachelor's degree and it's a pretty wide 477 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:31,010 range and what that can be it needs to 478 00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:34,490 be something technical or I'm just 479 00:18:37,630 --> 00:18:35,630 trying to think of people that I know 480 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:37,640 some people have engineering degrees of 481 00:18:42,430 --> 00:18:40,370 course but then I had no some math 482 00:18:44,500 --> 00:18:42,440 majors and physics and things like that 483 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:44,510 basically anything that's in the science 484 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:47,330 technology engineering or math type of 485 00:18:52,150 --> 00:18:49,640 degrees will really help get you on your 486 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:52,160 way like I mentioned earlier I was a 487 00:18:56,169 --> 00:18:54,290 co-op cooperative education student a 488 00:18:59,200 --> 00:18:56,179 co-op student where I got to come spend 489 00:19:00,790 --> 00:18:59,210 a couple semesters here for me I got to 490 00:19:02,020 --> 00:19:00,800 learn what NASA was all about NASA got 491 00:19:04,570 --> 00:19:02,030 to look at me and see if I was maybe 492 00:19:06,220 --> 00:19:04,580 worth hiring because I obviously keep 493 00:19:08,110 --> 00:19:06,230 pieces seeing if what you think you want 494 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:08,120 to do when you grow up is something you 495 00:19:11,790 --> 00:19:10,490 really want to do and co-op and let you 496 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:11,800 do that 497 00:19:15,180 --> 00:19:13,930 you know once you get working here you 498 00:19:18,390 --> 00:19:15,190 want to really work on your leadership 499 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:18,400 and teamwork communication skills as far 500 00:19:21,810 --> 00:19:19,530 as getting to be the flight director 501 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:21,820 it's almost a given that you can learn 502 00:19:26,550 --> 00:19:24,370 the various systems but the true test is 503 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:26,560 how well you can lead and lead a team 504 00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,570 communicate with all those different 505 00:19:32,430 --> 00:19:30,880 organizations we deal with and 506 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:32,440 communicative communicate effectively 507 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:34,930 and what it says is true particularly 508 00:19:39,150 --> 00:19:36,970 for those who work in technical fields 509 00:19:41,370 --> 00:19:39,160 but even people who have degrees in 510 00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:41,380 non-technical areas can still work here 511 00:19:45,450 --> 00:19:43,660 there are I don't have a technical 512 00:19:47,910 --> 00:19:45,460 degree mine is in journalism I know 513 00:19:49,890 --> 00:19:47,920 people who are English majors who are 514 00:19:51,810 --> 00:19:49,900 work here because there's all kinds of 515 00:19:53,940 --> 00:19:51,820 work that is done as part of the support 516 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:53,950 of the space program it is fun to watch 517 00:19:57,030 --> 00:19:55,960 and talk to people that don't 518 00:20:00,540 --> 00:19:57,040 necessarily have those engineering 519 00:20:02,550 --> 00:20:00,550 degrees because we as flight controllers 520 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:02,560 we maybe put ourselves in the little box 521 00:20:05,550 --> 00:20:04,150 where we just interact with people with 522 00:20:07,650 --> 00:20:05,560 those degrees and it's fun to meet 523 00:20:10,410 --> 00:20:07,660 people that have just the same passion 524 00:20:12,180 --> 00:20:10,420 that we do that haven't been admitted 525 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:12,190 Business Administration or they work in 526 00:20:16,770 --> 00:20:14,530 procurement or even on site in the 527 00:20:18,770 --> 00:20:16,780 facilities so really I think the message 528 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:18,780 we're both trying to tell you is that 529 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:21,400 even if engineering or math is not is 530 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:23,140 not your thing but you really want to 531 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:24,250 work with the space program the 532 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:25,690 opportunities are certainly out there 533 00:20:29,820 --> 00:20:27,910 and what you'll find here at this Center 534 00:20:31,500 --> 00:20:29,830 and I'm sure it's true a KSC and any of 535 00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:31,510 the other field centers is that 536 00:20:35,430 --> 00:20:33,070 everybody just they have such a passion 537 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:35,440 for what we do and then they just able 538 00:20:40,410 --> 00:20:38,170 to take their unique skill set and apply 539 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:40,420 it to something that we do it do here to 540 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:46,570 help with our various jobs right all 541 00:20:49,950 --> 00:20:47,770 right I couldn't say it even better 542 00:20:51,390 --> 00:20:49,960 money this is a Ryan Dalziel in by the 543 00:20:52,890 --> 00:20:51,400 way but I just got the word that we have 544 00:20:54,360 --> 00:20:52,900 four minutes left so I think we have 545 00:20:56,430 --> 00:20:54,370 time for one more question and then you 546 00:21:01,400 --> 00:20:56,440 can say anything else you'd like to 547 00:21:07,370 --> 00:21:04,430 um hi my name is Lizzie I'm from Russia 548 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:07,380 England and my question is how many how 549 00:21:11,650 --> 00:21:09,360 many calls do you make to the 550 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:11,660 International Space Station in one day 551 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:15,930 that's a good question also you know 552 00:21:19,370 --> 00:21:17,850 there's we've in this room we've got one 553 00:21:21,740 --> 00:21:19,380 person that normally talks to the crew 554 00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:21,750 and that's called the Capcom and I asked 555 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:24,870 around the other day actually to try to 556 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:27,330 get a sense of that and they on a 557 00:21:32,060 --> 00:21:29,490 typical day like today is a typical day 558 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:32,070 in space they'll talk to the crew 15 or 559 00:21:35,870 --> 00:21:34,530 20 times and that's true for here in 560 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,880 Houston but of course there are five 561 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:37,200 different control centers around the 562 00:21:43,100 --> 00:21:39,450 world that interact with the crew at 563 00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:43,110 various times and so they they may also 564 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:44,370 talk to the crew so their payload 565 00:21:47,630 --> 00:21:45,690 questions they'll call Huntsville if 566 00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:47,640 they have questions about the Jackson 567 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:51,240 module they'll call japan etc so it's 568 00:21:56,090 --> 00:21:53,310 not go ahead and a few minutes ago while 569 00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:56,100 we were doing our our program there were 570 00:22:01,580 --> 00:21:59,520 calls from the crew members talking to 571 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:01,590 the control room here in Houston the 572 00:22:06,430 --> 00:22:03,690 control room in Moscow and the control 573 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:06,440 room outside Tokyo all at the same time 574 00:22:12,860 --> 00:22:09,630 to think the people in Germany were 575 00:22:15,350 --> 00:22:12,870 feeling left out right on the weekends 576 00:22:16,850 --> 00:22:15,360 the astronauts cosmonauts actually get a 577 00:22:19,070 --> 00:22:16,860 what you and I would consider to be a 578 00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:19,080 typical weekend they get to their only 579 00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:20,580 working half a day on Saturday they'll 580 00:22:25,250 --> 00:22:23,430 get an entire sunday off and so the 581 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:25,260 flight control room here in houston we 582 00:22:28,700 --> 00:22:26,610 won't have as many people here either 583 00:22:30,620 --> 00:22:28,710 and the flight director gets to serve as 584 00:22:32,420 --> 00:22:30,630 the Capcom so on those days I get to 585 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:32,430 actually talk to the crew directly we 586 00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:33,570 don't talk to them very much though on 587 00:22:36,740 --> 00:22:35,070 the weekend as you would expect most 588 00:22:39,170 --> 00:22:36,750 Sundays we probably don't talk to them 589 00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:39,180 at all and then on Saturday just just a 590 00:22:42,980 --> 00:22:40,790 few times if they have any questions 591 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:42,990 Brian said we're about at a time do you 592 00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:45,450 have a one space camper with a message 593 00:22:50,650 --> 00:22:48,180 for the others you know the only thing I 594 00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:50,660 can really tell you guys is to keep 595 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:53,280 wondering about the things that that you 596 00:22:56,270 --> 00:22:54,360 learn are the things that you're 597 00:22:57,930 --> 00:22:56,280 interested in keep pursuing your 598 00:22:59,549 --> 00:22:57,940 interests keep trying to 599 00:23:01,799 --> 00:22:59,559 learn more and what if it brings you 600 00:23:03,210 --> 00:23:01,809 here or to NASA that's great but what's 601 00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:03,220 most important is that you keep pursuing 602 00:23:09,210 --> 00:23:05,169 what it is that really is your interest 603 00:23:11,490 --> 00:23:09,220 and I wish you all the very best it